Seventh-day Adventist World President Receives Appeal from Samoa — 12 Comments

  1. This issue is very simple when we initially approach it from God’s holy perspective. We must always be optomistic, while fully submitting our will to the leading of the Holy Spirit of God. I am totally convinced that the Holy Spirit of God will restrain our pride and overwhelm our views with the light of His truth, in every issue, when we yield our intellect to His divine omnipotence. This issue has brought about a divisive spirit in the body of Christ, which is an important aspect on this issue to be considered.

    The names of the days were instituted later, by the papacy, but the numbers remain unaltered. The adjustment made was with the names of the days and not the numbers. With the new change made, the name Monday that was the 2nd day was moved back to replace the name Sunday to now become the 1st day. This replaced Saturday with the name Sunday for the 7th day, and Friday the 6th day is replaced by the name Saturday.


    Hope this will shed light on this issue. We must be always willing to humble ourselves when we are enlightened and refined by the Holy Spirit of God. The enemy is throwing darts of separation and division our way, to perplex and confuse the Bride of Christ. Our only hope is a total dependence on the guidance of The Holy Spirit and The Holy Word. With love for the brethren.

    • Malo le Soifua Asoleiuga,

      Praise the Lord for your thoughts but having read through paragraph two and three I am confused, so let me ask some questions to help me better understand your point of view.

      I believe we both accept God’s Word as the ultimate inspired authority of God, and there are numerous references to when Jesus died, rested in death and was resurrected from the grave that clearly indicate the number of the day of the week that also underline their corresponding days, referred to as Friday, Saturday and Sunday:

      In Mark 15:42 it says, “Now when evening had come, because it was the Preparation Day, that is, the day before the Sabbath,”. This is the 6th-day of the week named Friday.

      In Mathew 27:62 it says, “On the next day, which followed the Day of Preparation,”. This is the 7th-Day of the week, The Sabbath-Day, named Saturday.

      In Mathew 28:1 it says, “Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn,…..”. This is the first-day of the week named Sunday.

      Now as you say, “we must continue keeping the Sabbath by the numbers of the weekdays and not their names”. Why, as outlined above, would you only follow part of God’s Word and not all of it?

      You also refer to “the adjustment made was with the names of the days and not the numbers”, so I presume you are referring to the calendar. If we follow the calendar that we universally use to tell us the year, month, day and date that also uses the international dateline to sync the calendar and time i.e. 24 hours, this ensures that world-time is coordinated globally, through a cycle of 24 hours, irrespective of where you are. So if you look at the calendar today, it is Saturday 21st July, the 7th-Day Sabbath. If you Google the World Time and look at any country in the world, you will find that at some point through the current cycle of 24 hours, no matter where you are, it is Saturday 21st July and it is the 7th-Day Sabbath.

      Samoa also follow the same universal calendar as the rest of the world; which shows the year, month, day, date and 24 hour cycle, therefore, why would the Samoan Seventh-day Adventists not worship on the 21st July, the 7th-Day Sabbath Day? Why should they be made to recognize the 22nd July as the 7th-Day Sabbath? To do so is to recognize that the 1st-day of the week, Sunday, is the Sabbath-Day.

      Referring back to God’s Word, it is clear that the 6th-day of the week is ‘preparation day’ named Friday, the 1st-day of the week named Sunday and the 7th-Day of the week is the Sabbath-Day, named Saturday, is found sandwiched between the 6th-day and 1st-day of the week; why would we ask the Samoan Seventh-day Adventist to worship on the 1st-day of the week, Sunday, which is neither found in God’s Word or maintained by the universal calendar we use today?

      The Church, through the South Pacific Division leadership, advocating 7th-Day Sunday worship in Samoa as the true Sabbath, is apostasy. I wholeheartedly agree with you that we need to seek God’s wisdom and leadership and allow the power of the Holy Spirit to convict of the truth. That God’s Will, will prevail over man’s pride and foolishness, as there is many of our Samoan brethren Salvation at stake by causing them falsely, to adhere to 7th-Day Sunday worship. Do you think that this is what God intended according to His inspired Word?

      Manuia le Sapati, Alofaaga ma vi’ia le Atua, ulalei

    • I fully agree with you believer! Thanks for the Holy Spirit that guides you in this insight.This clearly shed light on the Samoan issue. God bless you

  2. Talofa Asoleiuga

    Thank you for your explanation.

    However, I don’t see that the Samoan government has changed the names of the days. The names are actually attached to the numbers of the days — that is, Sunday is the first day, Monday is the second day, etc. And the government did not change that.

    The Samoan government has moved the country across the date line, and that’s a time zone change, not a renaming of days. Usually a time zone change only makes a difference of an hour. However, when we cross the date line, it makes a 24-hour difference. So it is a little more dramatic.

    It’s the same Sabbath on both sides of the dateline. Instead of the Sabbath coming to Samoa after making its way around the world, the Sabbath now comes to Samoa first.

    I fully agree that “We must be always willing to humble ourselves when we are enlightened and refined by the Holy Spirit of God. … Our only hope is a total dependence on the guidance of The Holy Spirit and The Holy Word.”

    Which day we keep as Sabbath doesn’t matter one bit if we do not have a spirit of humility and total dependence on our Creator God.

  3. Since we live on a round world an international dateline isn’t really a man-made thing. It is a scientific reality.
    But calling the 180th meridian the dateline is purely man-made and arbitrary. It isn’t even officially recognized as such in secular law. Islands in the Pacific have the legal option to line up with the countries they are most in connection with.

    December 2011 the government in independent Samoa moved from the eastern side of the international dateline (where they were since 1892) back to the western side, where it was when Christianity first came to the Islands.

    Now they were no longer the last on the globe (after America) to welcome the new day, but the first (like New Zealand).

    The calendar did not change at all.
    It was like being on a ship traveling from America to New Zealand.
    They went to bed on 29 December and crossed the dateline at midnight, so when they woke the next morning it was 31 December, missing out on 30 December entirely.

    It happens all the time when people travel across the dateline.
    If a Pastor flies from America to New Zealand on Thursday, he will totally miss Friday and celebrate the Sabbath the very next day. (Saturday)

    But it seems the church leadership on the Islands refused to accept the idea that they
    crossed the dateline — at least in relation to the Sabbath.
    Yet, it appears they have accepted the shift across in every other respect.

    On Dec. 31 (Saturday) Samoan Adventists did not open for worship along with the rest of global Adventism.

    They now worshipped on Jan. 1,8,15,22,29 (Sundays)
    While global Adventism celebrated the Sabbath on
    Dec. 31, Jan. 7, 14, 21, 28 (Saturdays)

  4. I think this problem might be simpler to resolve than it is made out to be.
    I spent 6 weeks last year working in the Kingdom of Tonga, just south of Samoa. I had a problem because the church was worshiping on Sunday and I only had sabbath off from work. Hence I could never meet with the church.
    Many years ago as European explorers began to travel far, they found time was changing the further they went east or west. So the English decided to make standard time measured from London. They called it GMT. This defines time around the world today. But as a Bible believing person, I think God should make the decision, not man. He made Jerusalem the center of the world. All time should be measured east or west of Jerusalem, not London. This places Samoa and Tonga definitely on the side of New Zealand, not USA, beginning the new day, not ending the old day.
    God is merciful on us, and He does not want us to be legalistic, but would we not want to please Him by getting this matter right?

    • Dear Robin,

      I appreciate the time and attention that you have given to this matter. I believe it is even simpler than you have succeeded in making it. The date line, as we know it, was in existence (and had been deliberately adjusted by both the Philippines and Alaska) well before the 1884 invention of the meridians and GMT. Indeed, with a single, God-ordained weekly cycle on a round world, it must have been in development for a very long time.

      If we do not accept the IDL as it has developed, but rather choose our own standard, such as either Jerusalem or the 180-degree meridian, then we must necessarily fall into the observance of either Friday or Sunday in some part(s) of the world. Personally, I do not believe that this is God’s will for us.

      I agree that God did make Jerusalem the centre of the world, but I cannot find where He has ever commanded us to use it as a zero-degree reference point for our Sabbath observance, thus creating our own Adventist IDL, in opposition to the one endorsed by the world’s civil authorities — who are, as I understand it, appointed by God to act within their legitimate sphere (see Romans 13:1). Why not research what Ellen White had to say about Sabbath Keeping and the Date Line?

      Because “the Sabbath was made for man,” I believe that “getting this matter right” means observing the Sabbath from sunset Friday to sunset Saturday everywhere in the world — placing the spiritual needs of our countrymen ahead of our own personal preferences and theories. After all, the Sabbath is supposed to be a sign, isn’t it? Can you see my point?

    • Nothwithstanding your point of view regarding the keeping of time, it is clear in God’s Word that Sabbath, Saturday, comes after preparation day, Friday and before the 1st day of the week, Sunday. It is also clear that the order of our keeping of time, is the universal calendar that the world follows e.g. the year, month and day. Today is the 7th-Day Sabbath on Saturday 18th August. As you state in your opening sentence, “I think this problem might be simpler to resolve than it is made out to be”, do you think that the Word of God can be any simplier than this? What is difficult to accept is how can Sunday 19th August, be the 7th-Day Sabbath? Why would the South Pacific Division and the Samoan Tokelau Mission force our Samoan brethren to worship on this day and not the 7th-Day Sabbath on 18th August Saturday, which the global Seventh-Day Church worship based on God’s Word?

  5. It is true that people of God need to be assisted so that they can Go back to the normal day of worship ,that is Saturday. and i urge all people to Saturday the bible and this issue of the day is clear in the bible that the day of worship is Saturday and we need God to lead us so that we can understand WITHOUT HOLY SPIRIT WE WILL LOST BUT IF WE CAN LET God to lead us he will show us the way he is that Truth and truth is in him forever AMEN

  6. …… I encourage everyone on this page to checkup on this site …… ….. to understand the history of how this issue came about….. Its a lot of reading but you’ll come to an understanding…… God bless you all……

    • Dear King,

      Thank you for your helpfulness.

      Unhappily, the origin of the present problem is a rather sensitive matter. Regardless of the “side” on which we may now be finding ourselves, there are certain indisputable facts. Here are a few of them:

      1) The currently official practice of Sunday observance among Seventh-day Adventists in Kiribati, Wallis/Futuna, and Samoa is consistent with the precedent set in Tonga since the 1890s, and the desire to be “consistent” with the Tonga precedent was at least a factor in the church leaders’ decisions in favour of Sunday keeping in those other island groups, including Samoa;

      2) The day line has never been shifted or changed in relation to Tonga, so the SDA practice of Sunday observance there did not arise from any difficulty connected with any changes in the local reckoning of the weekly cycle; and

      3) In spite of the fact that Tonga’s society was on the Asian week, our pioneer SDA missionaries (first arriving in 1895) chose to use the 180-degree meridian from Greenwich as a day line instead, at least for purposes of Sabbath keeping. Sunday keeping in Tonga was the result of that decision.

      Those are the objective facts. From there, we have people with differing opinions in regard to what should have been done, and what ought to be done now.

      My own study has led me to the firm conclusion that the 180-degree meridian has always been irrelevant to the day line, and that those pioneer SDA missionaries to Tonga made a big mistake in using that meridian as a private day line. I perceive that there are a number of exculpatory facts, which could help to explain how even good and honest missionaries could have made such a mistake. Among these are that:

      1) They came from American society at a time of great ignorance concerning the day line (even today, North American ignorance regarding the IDL is a major impediment to solving this crisis);

      2) The day line was in great flux, at the time. Strong American influence had already moved the governments of several island nations to shift the day line in the direction of the 180-degree meridian. Tonga was debating whether or not to follow suit. Had they done so, a near 180-degree meridian day line would have become a reality; and

      3) The Tonga government had been established by the Wesleyan missionaries, as evidenced by the strictest of Sunday laws already being enshrined in Tonga’s constitution. All of this may have tended to lessen the respect of our Adventist pioneers for the Tonga government, and thus make it easier for them to disregard its legitimate authority.

      Now that it is becoming more and more obvious that the original decision for Adventist Sunday keeping in Tonga was a mistake — and now that we are seeing its consequences in places such as Samoa — I believe that if our pioneers to Tonga were still among us, their concern for the Lord’s work and for the salvation of souls would move them to urge us to correct their original error humbly and promptly. I do not believe that it is any honour to our pioneer missionaries when we seek to perpetuate (and replicate) their mistakes.

      God bless!

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